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Pedja
 Post subject: Must read
PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:38 pm 
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I don't speak Dutch, but Google is my friend.

http://forum.zelfbouwaudio.nl/viewtopic ... 5&start=25

http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... start%3D25

It comes from the guy (member of this forum, btw) who once didn't have a problem to ask me to help him building I/V stage. And I did do that.

Now, when I asked him to point out those particular "unsubstantiated claims" and "deception" (as translated by Google), he answered that it was a general statement and not the one directed particularly to my product.

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A 25 years ago none knew about the jitter, hence all the properly working digital devices had to sound the same. Now, we know about the jitter, hence they are allowed to sound different - and we can hear it! But back then...? No, it was too early.

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Elso Kwak
 Post subject: Re: Must read
PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:50 pm 
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Pedja wrote:
I don't speak Dutch, but Google is my friend.

http://forum.zelfbouwaudio.nl/viewtopic ... 5&start=25

http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... start%3D25

It comes from the guy (member of this forum, btw) who once didn't have a problem to ask me to help him building I/V stage. And I did do that.

Now, when I asked him to point out those particular "unsubstantiated claims" and "deception" (as translated by Google), he answered that it was a general statement and not the one directed particularly to my product.

I can't wait meeting Jocko Gay [joke]
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Pedja
 Post subject: Re: Must read
PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:52 pm 
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Oh, well... :lol:

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A 25 years ago none knew about the jitter, hence all the properly working digital devices had to sound the same. Now, we know about the jitter, hence they are allowed to sound different - and we can hear it! But back then...? No, it was too early.

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carlosfm
 Post subject: Re: Must read
PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:31 pm 
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I don't understand Sander's problem. I'm even shocked.
What the hell... Pedja shows measurements in that page. He does talk about the design.
If he doesn't show the schematic in advance, then it's his decision and must be respected. He is the designer and that must also be respected. And if he protects his stuff, he has reasons to!
Only who doesn't know what happened back at The Pub doesn't know what I'm talking about.

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Jocko Homo
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 6:35 pm 
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Elso Kwak wrote:
I can't wait meeting Jocko Gay [joke]
:D


"I'm super, thanks for asking..........
..........Everything is super when you're gay!"

Big Gay Al, er, ah, I mean Jocko

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Pedja
 Post subject: Re: Must read
PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 2:50 am 
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carlosfm wrote:
I don't understand Sander's problem. I'm even shocked.
What the hell... Pedja shows measurements in that page. He does talk about the design.
If he doesn't show the schematic in advance, then it's his decision and must be respected. He is the designer and that must also be respected. And if he protects his stuff, he has reasons to!
Only who doesn't know what happened back at The Pub doesn't know what I'm talking about.

No, not only those.

A year or two ago that guy came to this forum and asked for the help to make I/V stage. He also mailed me directly asking for the same. And he did get the help.

Now he suspects my work and praise some of his own (?) promoting it as a point of DIY audio, as he gave “hours” of own work for free. Man, I gave for free the years of mine. “Hours” I gave only to him.

Something that freezes your mind for the moment... It is not that I am really shocked, though you are not the only who is. I didn’t use to suspect this guy but I got accustomed to the events like this. Yesterday “fellow DIYer that needs you advice or help”, today “enquiring mind who publicly suspects your work”... it got a bit boring. So shell one expect tomorrow to hear from this kind of man what those “general statements” have to do with this “particular product”? I do not.

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hypercatabol
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Man, this guy is into audio, also? Just google his name with ATI and/or hardocp - his name is a laughing stock in PC hardware forums :blackeye:
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carlosfm
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hypercatabol wrote:
Man, this guy is into audio, also?


Yes, I think he has a page on PC hardware so he must spread from audio forum to PC hardware forum and probably he sells audio kits as much as videocards.
This spreading thing sounds familiar...

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