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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:07 pm 
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One other thing: If you live in a place with really awful quality power-company AC - - California jumps to mind - - you might want to stick a DC blocker on your line, before the transformer. Especially if you're using a toroid, which are prone to screwiness and noise if there's DC on the line or imbalances between the phases. Having once lived in CA, I saw all of that and more. Nice wine out there, awful electricity.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:20 pm 
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From my experience, always use a DC blocker with toroids...
I use to have a good sine wave on my AC outlets...
Now I have almost a 'flat' on the extremes...

roiibm, those R-Core disappeared! :shock: I can't find them anymore :cray: ...

And yes, those R-Core are the best in isolation. One 'bobbin' on each side. But for 1000VA I wonder the price...

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:06 pm 
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Just one attempt of googling:

http://www.kellysearch.com/qu-product-144689-2.html
(many sources)

http://www.kellysearch.de/de-company-90 ... ctid=96821

http://www.ulmer-trafo.de/content.php?s ... details=11
http://www.ulmer-trafo.de/content.php?s ... details=28
(must be in my neighborhood)

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:13 pm 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 12:09 am 
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slightly oversized for a preamp...
but even such a flat transformer from
http://schaffer.de/english/produkte.html

as found in the bargain bin at Segor's in Berlin (http://www.segor.de)

should have much less coupling capacitance than any toroid.

regards, Gerhard

Gerhard's dictionary:
Sonderpreis = special price
Flachtrafo = Flachtransformator = flat transformer
Segor = pretty good component shop in Berlin,
was in my neighborhood until I moved to Ulm, (450 miles away)


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:06 am 
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I talked to a buddy on Saturday, who claims the "cheap" source of (Chinese) R-cores has dried up. His word, not mine. But might be timely info.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:01 am 
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There was a place in France that had R-cores at good prices.
I can't remember the name now... Peufeu surely knows.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:12 am 
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Voilà:

http://www.selectronic.fr/soussousfamil ... =11&page=1

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:21 am 
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For our US guys:
http://www.electroassemblies.com/r-core.htm

In Europe:
http://stores.ebay.de/ASE-Audiotuning_T ... idZ2QQtZkm
or http://www.audiotuning.de

I don't know either of them, though.

Tino


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:40 am 
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carlosfm wrote:


much better than my link.....


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:01 pm 
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Thank you very much for the links guys. I'll order some from Selectronic.
Sent some request for quotes to some german companies as well, although I don't think their prices will suit me considering the low quantities I'll be ordering.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:20 pm 
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gerhard wrote:


Got their quote. I am really impressed, much lower prices than I expected considering they are custom built.
Gerhard, do you have any experience with their TEST trafos(first link)? How would you consider their quality compared to R-Core trafos? What about their TU series(the second link).

If there is some real interest, I could set up a small(and I mean it) group buy.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:56 am 
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Wow ! This is my first post on this forum !
Hello everybody ! :wave:

dougigs wrote:
I run my line power from the wall into a 1500VA toroidal transformer with dual 120VAC secondaries - - a fully isolated and screened unit from Plitron in Canada.
It's housed in one of those die-cast Hammond enclosures they use for waterproof outdoor applications, bolted in very securely, with a nice power cable connecting it to the wall. The transformer is protected with a breaker and a soft-start circuit (one of those ones that shunts it for half a second through a big power resistor).
It's a centre-tapped transformer. The primary is connected to live and neutral... the house ground/earth is connected to the box, and at one point, through an RC ground-isolator circuit, to the centre tap of the transformer's secondary.


I thougt the earth must be connected without any insulation for security reasons ? Or do I miss something ?

dougigs wrote:
Now, there are caveats about using balanced power.
First, and crucial, is this: Your ground is going to be 120V, or 60V, above your "neutral." If you try to plug in a piece of equipment that ISN'T attached to your balanced-power isolator, you could blow something. Or give yourself a shock.
Second, you need to open up your components and make sure they have the AC section wired properly - - i.e. with "live" and "neutral" going to opposite legs of the power transformer's primary and the "ground" going to the chassis, if anything, and THE AUDIO GROUND NOT CONNECTED TO THE AC GROUND. Just to be safe, and to make sure you're actually getting the benefits of balanced power.


I have a computer for reading FLAC files. Because its switching power supply is very noisy, is it possible to connect it directly in the wall mains apart from the "balanced power isolator", with the DAC and all the other audio stuff connected on this "balanced power isolator", assuming that I use a complete insulated spdif cable between the computer and the DAC ?

Please forgive my bad english....... ;)


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